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so this isn't anything that just is

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limited to the united states it's a

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hi everyone and welcome to that ufo

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podcast the other show we are on kgra

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digital broadcasting dan how are we

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today i'm great thank you how are you i

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am very good and if you are watching

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this on the friday that it's broadcast

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and we hope you do check out the shows

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as they air on kg ra's facebook channel

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or their youtube channel thank you to

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our colleagues and friends over at the

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unidentified to celebrity review for the

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show they have just done if you're not

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listening to it after that then

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disregard that because it doesn't really

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matter it happened weeks ago but make

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sure you've also checked out their show

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as well

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done

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uh it's your fault for this week's show

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i mean you came up with the idea

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uh we were going to talk about um a

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little bit about bill nelson's comments

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which i think is a great place to start

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anyway but uh you mentioned there were a

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few other statements made over the last

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year or so that would be good to bring

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up and talk about and we've just turned

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that into a whole show so what we have

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for you folks are starting from july

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2020 are some senators and various

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different politicians or people within

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the political arena

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talking about ufos uaps because it's

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something we see at the time we scroll

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past it on social media we check out the

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live clip and then we can move on and

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forget about it and when you actually

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look at the list we've got in front of

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us dan i've got july 2020 july 2020

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november 2020 march 2021 may may may

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june june

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there's been a lot happening and for

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people who say ah it's a slow news week

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or a slow news month

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when you actually look at all the

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statements that have been made there's

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been quite a lot and this isn't

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everything by any means so

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it was a pretty good idea on your behalf

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to do this so

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well well done well done

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thank you um

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it's one of those things that we we all

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take these statements for granted i

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think um so i just thought it would be

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at least after seeing bill nelson's

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comment i went and kind of reviewed all

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these comments

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thought wow we've come a real long way

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this would be good to you know recap and

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discuss

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absolutely so what we're going to do is

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play the comments and we'll have a

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little chat about each of them

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afterwards and we will of course finish

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up with bill nelson's recent comment

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head of nasa at the moment making quite

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a big claim on ufos well i think so i

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can't speak for everyone because some of

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you on social media and otherwise got in

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touch and shared your thoughts and some

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let's get to that when we get there so

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the first clip we are going to play is

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from senator marco rubio and this was

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from july 2020. uh that is not senator

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marco rubio that is just a really

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unfortunate place to have stopped jim

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defense uh interview so we'll play this

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clip all the clips folks are 30 seconds

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in a minute or so so just uh enjoy and

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what did i do uh i'm not getting any

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audio there no why are you not getting

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getting any audio done i don't know

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because i never clicked the button did a

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share subscribe

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there we go let's get back to jim okay

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thanks very much now we're sharing

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system audio you are all going to hear

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we could have been proper professional

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and pros and edited that out no

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that's just not dan style anymore it

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doesn't do this this is the human

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struggle i like i like to let people see

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the process you know as yeah like that's

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that's that's such a lazy way to say we

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here is jim uh the fed with senator

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release it publicly and let's try to get

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um you know look here's the interesting

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flying over our military bases and

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places where we're conducting military

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exercises and we don't know what it is

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technologies that you don't have at your

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looking into and so that's the premise i

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begin with let's clear this up who would

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be looking into this and they would be

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generating some sort of a publicly

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come up with that that's the one that

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the office of naval intelligence this is

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better part of a decade other countries

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our perspective is there is someone

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what it is maybe there's a completely

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sort of boring explanation for it but we

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need to find out um and and so that's

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really what we're asking about and we're

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asking them to make public as much as

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are we alone in the universe or is there

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unexplained um

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have a gut feeling that's an absolute

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lie of course he would have a gut

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feeling but the the language used

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talking aliens here that's essentially

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what he gets right into

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don't doubt off the back of these

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briefings and what he's discussed with

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the people he's discussed it with

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being told we don't think these are from

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non-human agree disagree what do you

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knowledge of what the the briefings that

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the side of they are non-human

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in the air very purposefully here i

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and folks watching or listening to this

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have their their varying opinions and

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people want senators congressmen and

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anyone an authority to just come out and

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tell us what they know but i think he's

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doing the right thing and playing it

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that there is something that we need to

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investigate and it's almost appealing to

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to other mainstream media and science

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that why don't we want to know what this

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boring then well i don't know how it

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could be given the technology that's on

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but he is making the point that why

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don't we want to know what this is

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that's that's pretty pretty great and i

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fair but from us outside of the united

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we have no political affiliations at all

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and we're just looking to to see the

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comments and take them at face value

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just for anyone who's like marco rubio

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yeah hate him well you know any anyone

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feeling that way hold your horses

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because we're about to jump to the other

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side of the aisle um this this timeline

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shows that this is absolutely a

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bipartisan issue and we'll try and talk

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about the legislation that kind of went

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hand in hand with these moments as we go

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right now we're in the era of s3905 that

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was the first piece of legislation for

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uh they didn't specify uap it was an

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anomalous aerial uh phenomena i think it

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um so so they were kind of dancing

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senator marco rubio and senator mark

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were the first two guys really to come

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out swinging on this issue and kind of

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set the bar and say look you know like

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you said this is a serious issue there's

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a person from each side of the aisle

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screaming that this is relevant so uh so

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yeah let's let's have a listen to mark

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let me just ask you dan very quickly do

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you think that was deliberate that one

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week apart they made these comments from

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either side of the political fence

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well they're both involved

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in places that bill would have come from

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um mark warner especially um

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so

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i mean yeah these these bills are

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written these are the guys to get the

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briefings first so yeah i i think the

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these guys were decided uh that they

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were going to be the figureheads to

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start running with this

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let's head over to the senator mark

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warner then and hear his comments at the

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time from july 2020

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well

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i'm not going to get into any uh details

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on classified information i have

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uh received a similar brief um

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over a year ago uh i need to get an

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update as well

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and you know i'm concerned about

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anything

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that might threaten

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the health and well-being

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of

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you know our pilots

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uh we've got a lot of those pilots that

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fly out of oceania uh fly out of hampton

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roads uh if there is

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anything that is um uh disturbing their

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flight patterns uh or potentially a

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threat um i think it's appropriate that

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the navy and the armed forces generally

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uh take this into consideration but in

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that remains classified i'm the vice

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chairman of the intelligence committee

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obviously i'm not going to talk about

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classified information uh but

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but i think it's appropriate that the

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pentagon keeps senator rubio and i and

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other members of the committee informed

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again i've heard nothing about um

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the status of the dni report uh and

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we'll just have to stay tuned

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again

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i'm not gonna no matter how many times

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you ask i'm not gonna talk about things

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that are uh classified i am going to say

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though that um the pentagon ought to be

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doing everything it would be appropriate

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to protect the safety and well-being of

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our planes and our pilots

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now that was very much the the tone not

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quite as exciting was it as marco

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rubio's but it's more of an

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acknowledgement that he's had one of

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those briefings interesting it was a

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year since he'd had it um not because it

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had been a year but just that's that's

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quite a while so there was no follow-up

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since then and that begs the question

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did he go seeking out the briefing was

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it something that was given to him but

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he's he's clearly not had any chase-up

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or follow-up since um i i'm guessing

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that has very much changed at this point

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now anyway

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especially given this was

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almost a year before the task force

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report so you would think

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there's been a few updates at least

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since then as well mark warner then um

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good to see him getting involved and

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what are your thoughts

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uh it's similar to marco rubio like the

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these

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they're trailblazers

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not not many politicians are taking this

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issue on and they they're doing it in a

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very

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you know there's no jokes there's no

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awkward humor they they know the weight

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of the issue that if something is

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breaching their airspace and can

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outclass the very best stuff that they

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have

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there's a huge problem here and there it

364
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needs to be addressed you can tell that

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both these guys really want to kind of

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throw the book at the the problem um and

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get it solved but as as we saw

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there was some resistance as though this

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was happening

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through the years we have seen many

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former presidents

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give their opinion sometimes very

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fleetingly other times in a bit more

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detail like like bill clinton but uh

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former president obama was asked about

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this subject in november of last year on

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the late show with stephen colbert let's

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check out what barack obama had to say

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at the time and he gets pressed a little

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bit on it but

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there are times where

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prying information out of uh

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the bowels of an agency uh can can be

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challenging ufos any ufos did you ask

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about that i certainly asked about it

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and

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i can't tell you

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sorry okay

389
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all right i'll take that as a yes

390
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because if there were nothing i'd say

391
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there was none right

392
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you just played your hand i thought you

393
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were a poker player you just won a

394
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hundred percent showed your river card

395
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that's so much it makes me happy to

396
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thank you

397
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can i say it used to be that ufos was

398
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the uh and uh what is it roswell was the

399
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biggest conspiracy yeah and now that

400
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seems so tame

401
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right right the idea that right the

402
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government might have an alien spaceship

403
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that's now the biggest

404
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conspiracy is people in michigan vote

405
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let's take another quick break we'll be

406
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right back

407
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dan

408
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that that's a great clip i i hadn't

409
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quite realized how he was trying to

410
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normalize crash retrievals there uh

411
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before

412
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he's very like oh that's it's nothing

413
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don't don't think anything of it and now

414
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a year down the line we're kind of

415
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talking about these things as if they're

416
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very normalized you know

417
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i suppose yeah i'll have to play devil's

418
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advocate as a as an interviewer okay

419
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one one way we can take it that he's

420
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he's dropping it in and drip feeding

421
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that little bit of info and just

422
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normalizing the language and the

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conversation i think graeme rendell on

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our interview mentioned getting that

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language into the lexicon so it gets out

426
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into the wider public

427
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are we just reading into him joking

428
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about it

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or do do you honestly think it's a more

430
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deliberate attempt to

431
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to have that conversation because let's

432
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be fair stephen colbert is still being

433
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quite light-hearted and jokey it's not

434
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exactly a hard-hitting serious you know

435
00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:36,880
former president obama you know um

436
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do you have this and you know are we

437
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investigating this it's still said with

438
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a light-hearted you know laughing yeah

439
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colbert is a big ufo fan and he tends to

440
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ask a lot of his guests about ufos with

441
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the same kind of childish glee that you

442
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just saw him ask obama there uh obama's

443
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a very charismatic individual and and

444
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was clearly responding to that

445
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that tone that he was taking

446
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but

447
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again just just at this point the fact

448
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that he's talking about this in a

449
00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:09,600
serious or sorry not not serious but

450
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just addressing

451
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and teasing this when we know now in

452
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hindsight what was going on behind

453
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closed doors i think is is very

454
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interesting

455
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yep i'll give you that one then i think

456
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it's always very telling that

457
00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:25,279
we don't know to what level any former

458
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president you know

459
00:16:30,629 --> 00:16:28,639
former president trump talked about it

460
00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:30,639
on a couple of occasions president

461
00:16:35,430 --> 00:16:32,959
clinton talked about it i've never seen

462
00:16:37,749 --> 00:16:35,440
too many comments from from george bush

463
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senior or or otherwise on it to be

464
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honest but

465
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obviously the more modern day stuff for

466
00:16:44,949 --> 00:16:43,279
us is far more interesting i mean there

467
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have been former presidents who have

468
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talked about uniting the world under the

469
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guise of some potential alien invasion

470
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or or foreign entity but

471
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yeah that you were going to see about

472
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one of the bushes i was just gonna say

473
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that i don't think bush could say

474
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phenomena

475
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so i can't talk about anyone's accent

476
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so the next one we have is a clip from

477
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and hold your hats here folks fox news

478
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uh

479
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it is the former director of national

480
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intelligence john ratcliffe who has made

481
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a few interesting comments on the

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subject

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and his time so this one jumps forward a

484
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bit more to march 20th

485
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of 2021 and let's listen to this clip

486
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can you tell us have unidentified flying

487
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objects been seen

488
00:17:36,549 --> 00:17:34,160
well sure we we have uh

489
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lots of reports about what we call uh

490
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unidentified aerial phenomenon and this

491
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actually um is a program that's been in

492
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place for a few years in terms of a task

493
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force that that has been there under the

494
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national defense authorization act but

495
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as you correctly point out maria there's

496
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now a report that will be issued by the

497
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by the pentagon uh by the secretary of

498
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defense and the director of national

499
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intelligence i actually wanted to get

500
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this information out and declassified

501
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before i left office but we weren't able

502
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to get it down into an

503
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unclassified format that we could talk

504
00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:07,120
about uh quickly enough but but frankly

505
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there are a lot more sightings than have

506
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been made public some of those have been

507
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declassified when we talk about

508
00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:13,600
sightings we're talking about objects

509
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that have been seen by navy or air force

510
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pilots or have been picked up by

511
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satellite imagery

512
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that

513
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frankly

514
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engage in actions that are difficult to

515
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explain that

516
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movements that

517
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that are hard to replicate that we don't

518
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have the technology for or traveling at

519
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speeds that you know exceed the sound

520
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barrier without a sonic boom so in short

521
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um things that we are observing that are

522
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difficult to explain um and so uh you

523
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:43,600
know there's actually quite a few of

524
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those and i think that that information

525
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is being gathered and will will be put

526
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out um in a way that the american people

527
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can see we always when we when we see

528
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these things maria we always look for a

529
00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,440
plausible explanation you know weather

530
00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:57,600
can cause disturbances visual

531
00:19:02,710 --> 00:18:59,919
disturbances sometimes we wonder whether

532
00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:02,720
or not our adversaries have technologies

533
00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:04,160
that are a little bit further down the

534
00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:06,480
road than we thought or that we realized

535
00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:08,720
but there are instances where we don't

536
00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:10,480
have good explanations for some of the

537
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:13,039
things that we've seen and

538
00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:14,640
you know when that information becomes

539
00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:16,240
declassified i'll be able to talk a

540
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,590
can you tell us where it was seen

541
00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,870
actually all over the world there have

542
00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:26,559
been sightings all over the world and

543
00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:28,080
and when we talk about sightings the

544
00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:29,919
other thing i will tell you is um it's

545
00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:32,960
not just a pilot or just a satellite or

546
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:34,400
some um

547
00:19:38,390 --> 00:19:36,080
intelligence collection

548
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:38,400
usually we have multiple sensors that

549
00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,360
are picking up these things and so uh

550
00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:43,120
you know again some of this are just

551
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,720
their unexplained phenomenon um and

552
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,559
there's actually quite a few

553
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:50,880
more than have been made public so

554
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,720
i think it'll be healthy for as much of

555
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:54,160
this information to get out there as

556
00:19:58,870 --> 00:19:56,720
possible um so that the american people

557
00:20:02,470 --> 00:19:58,880
can see some of the things that uh that

558
00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:04,789
i love that i love that i don't know how

559
00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:06,960
to react that's my favorite thing and

560
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,440
basically this is my first note here

561
00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:11,440
just the producer that will be in here

562
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:14,720
must be going uh uh i i don't know what

563
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:18,400
to say um just just say wow like there's

564
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:20,000
no there's no follow-up they've got

565
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,960
because

566
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:22,960
this isn't just for that presenter on

567
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:24,159
that channel

568
00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:25,520
worldwide

569
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:27,280
and when it's your friends or colleagues

570
00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:29,120
or people you speak to i find this as

571
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:30,559
well when you have a serious

572
00:20:33,909 --> 00:20:32,000
conversation

573
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:33,919
stripping back the flying saucers little

574
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:36,640
green men aliens from mars and just talk

575
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:38,559
about the phenomenon itself and what

576
00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:40,559
people are seeing they don't know how to

577
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,679
react

578
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,919
yeah and that's a great great example of

579
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,760
i think john ratcliffe comes across

580
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:47,520
really well in that clip the way talks

581
00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:49,120
about the subject

582
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:51,919
he does it's worth noting that kind of

583
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:53,840
in in the preceding few months the the

584
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:58,000
first uap bill was passed um to get to

585
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:00,000
work on producing a report at this point

586
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:02,559
we we know the report is coming uh john

587
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,000
radcliffe has kind of seen the

588
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:06,000
information going into it

589
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,799
he's no longer the guy in that position

590
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,640
but he was when we were getting those

591
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,320
trump comments about roswell and things

592
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,480
like that so he clearly was privy to

593
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:17,280
this information um to to a level where

594
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:19,520
he's extremely comfortable

595
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:20,960
discussing it

596
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:23,520
in a very political

597
00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:24,480
tone

598
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:26,799
it's strange to me that

599
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:29,120
we we hear that language and we take it

600
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:31,679
for granted now because before this we

601
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:33,679
we just had people

602
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:36,000
i mean let's be honest we had we had

603
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:37,840
corey good right

604
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,080
and to go from that

605
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:42,480
to john ragcliffe the former director of

606
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:44,240
national intelligence talking about it

607
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:47,039
like this and blowing the report's mind

608
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,789
you know is that confirmation right

609
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:52,640
there in that clip

610
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:54,559
can i be the grumpy scottish guy though

611
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,159
and give you an issue i have with this

612
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:58,559
or two issues one of them it's still

613
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:01,280
that language of have ufos been seen and

614
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,960
i think anyone watching or listening to

615
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,919
this

616
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:06,240
would hate that because it's not correct

617
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:07,840
well yes they've been seen but you're

618
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:10,080
not asking me have ufos been seen you're

619
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,600
asking me are we seeing something that's

620
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:14,159
potentially non-human but sure it's that

621
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,799
stigma still isn't it but the fake the

622
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:18,960
fake footage being used

623
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,760
i get it's probably some staffer in the

624
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:23,440
background that it happens on multiple

625
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:24,799
news channels

626
00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:25,520
but

627
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,440
i hate the fact they don't go and vet

628
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:29,120
some of these clips to get some really

629
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:31,039
good ones and they're using some of

630
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:32,720
those that are from if i'm correct and

631
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:34,799
we had this discussion quite a while ago

632
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:37,600
one of the apple apps that you can make

633
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:40,159
a ufo video and it's literally from that

634
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:42,320
that's right uh you ufo camera has a

635
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:43,840
number of different effects you can if

636
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:46,080
you just google sorry youtube search for

637
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,520
the signal you can have a look on my

638
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:49,200
channel i've put them all on there all

639
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:50,240
the different effects so people can

640
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:51,840
reference them and and call them out

641
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:54,159
very quickly um but yeah it's it slipped

642
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,000
into the system there as a reported

643
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,320
sighting and there was the the previous

644
00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:00,400
videos of that as well was discovered to

645
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:01,760
just be a a

646
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:05,120
contrail from a missile um viewed from a

647
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,799
strange angle but it almost looks like

648
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:08,799
craft is coming through the clouds um

649
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,039
and it kind of speaks to the kind of

650
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:13,039
mirages that people can see you know and

651
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:14,640
and this is why we have to be slow and

652
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:16,799
steady we can't just throw every single

653
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:19,200
bit of footage into a database and go

654
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,240
cool that's all the guaranteed uap stuff

655
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,000
we we need the ai to look at these

656
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,919
things we need discerning individuals to

657
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,600
look at these things and we need to

658
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:29,280
approach it exactly like these guys are

659
00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:31,280
set in the bar to approach it

660
00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:33,520
one of louis ondo's interviews from

661
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:34,960
earlier this year

662
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:37,280
he was on fox or cnn one of those

663
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:39,919
channels and i had reached out to him

664
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,919
for a comment on the footage being used

665
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:43,679
being played as he spoke because it was

666
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:45,360
the same sort of stuff

667
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,799
where it was fake footage known debunked

668
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:50,640
hawks or cgi stuff

669
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:53,200
and he shared the same frustration that

670
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,960
obviously he's not he can't see it as

671
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,720
it's playing and it's just more than

672
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,240
likely someone in the background a

673
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,720
researcher being told go grab some ufo

674
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,880
clips they type ufo into youtube or

675
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,799
twitter or wherever they get them from

676
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,960
and they play those on the news so so

677
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,080
there you go

678
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:09,919
and those clips are the cleared ones as

679
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:11,760
well so they know that's why they're in

680
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:14,159
their kind of news pick database but we

681
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:16,640
all complained about it and they've you

682
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,799
know not saying that necessarily ufo

683
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,400
twitter had a hand getting rid of them

684
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,720
but they're not there anymore so even

685
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:24,159
that is a reflection of how the

686
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:25,840
conversation has changed you know no

687
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,520
cheesy fake clips in the background

688
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:29,840
we're just seeing nimitz and

689
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,600
gimble and like you said the other day

690
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,679
we it's genuinely hard to find stuff

691
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:36,080
before that now on youtube or at least i

692
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:38,640
find that no definitely definitely some

693
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:39,760
of the stuff we were looking for

694
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:41,840
recently will struggle to find that

695
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:44,400
normally comes up straight away and it's

696
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:46,240
again it shows the popularity right now

697
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:49,200
of the subject for better or for worse

698
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:51,919
um let's head over to the white house

699
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:55,039
press secretary jen saki and this again

700
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,400
was a question on uh may 25th so one

701
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:00,480
month before the uap report

702
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:03,360
and this was again journalists starting

703
00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:10,870
we're aware of the report

704
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:13,840
requirement um and our team at the

705
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:15,120
office of the director of national

706
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,120
intelligence is of course actively

707
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,760
working on that report um and we take

708
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,320
reports of incursions into our airspace

709
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,480
by any aircraft identified or

710
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,720
unidentified very seriously and

711
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:29,039
investigate each one but uh od and i

712
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:30,720
would be working on that report uh and

713
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,480
in terms of disclosure that would be uh

714
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:34,159
up to them i guess in all seriousness

715
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:35,600
though can you characterize the

716
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,600
president's concerns about this

717
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:39,520
phenomenon i mean it is

718
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:43,279
this concept of

719
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,720
objects in u.s airspace that are

720
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:48,799
either origin from other

721
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:51,120
nations or other entities but what is

722
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,120
the concern of the president that this

723
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:55,360
phenomenon seems to occur in the

724
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:57,919
national security apparatus well i think

725
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:00,880
broadly speaking the fact that we have

726
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:03,440
um a team that's actively working on a

727
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:05,840
report um certainly the safety of our

728
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:10,630
that's come off there i'll stop that one

729
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,480
anyway but i think to be fair the

730
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:14,400
question asked by the journalist would

731
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:16,960
have been better directed towards joe

732
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:20,480
biden but again you have to give the

733
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:23,279
the the props here to president trump

734
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,600
because it was his administration

735
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:27,120
rightly or wrongly whatever you think of

736
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,120
them who who started these bills in

737
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:32,240
motion back in december previously so

738
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:33,840
again this was something that was

739
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,799
already

740
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,559
in the pipeline before the the biden

741
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:38,480
administration came in and again it's

742
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,159
something that as we see is probably

743
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:42,320
better being away from any political

744
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:45,120
leanings anyway is is that fair

745
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:47,919
yeah i mean there's been much rings that

746
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,039
the fact that trump got rid of a lot of

747
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,240
of long-time civil servants uh yeah that

748
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:56,320
that's actually helped the cause because

749
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,279
a lot of those people were the kind of

750
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,880
you know the more religiously inclined

751
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,720
folk and and now we're kind of getting

752
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:04,720
new fresh faces in from the new

753
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:06,320
administration who can actually move

754
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:13,350
i'll unmute myself almost done almost

755
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:15,360
down there yeah just just managed to see

756
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,200
myself from the edge

757
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,440
this was the the first time we've kind

758
00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,679
of heard this in modern day

759
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,600
uh spoken about

760
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,440
in the white house press a press room as

761
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,840
well that that was a big moment i i

762
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,279
remember when it happened we we weren't

763
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:31,360
necessarily even sure if this report was

764
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,200
going to materialize we were all just

765
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,799
you know we knew the language was there

766
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,080
and we knew

767
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,000
that it wasn't

768
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:40,320
uh signed into law rather it was a a

769
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:43,919
requirement and they're not always uh

770
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:46,880
adhered to so the fact that we had avril

771
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:48,799
uh sorry jen pasaki there uh

772
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:51,360
acknowledging it i i feel like radcliffe

773
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,159
the previous dna dni may have been

774
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:56,080
holding her feet to the fire by talking

775
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,440
about it and saying that they set the

776
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:59,279
work up for them to carry on

777
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,919
yeah and to be fair the the props for

778
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,360
this don't really go to psyche because

779
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:04,960
she has to just answer the questions and

780
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:07,279
she does so in that very general and

781
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:08,799
vague way that doesn't really give you

782
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,640
any sort of answer it's just an

783
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,640
acknowledgement of the question in a

784
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:14,880
roundabout way um so fair play to the

785
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:16,960
journalist and the journalists of the

786
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,840
time who started asking those questions

787
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,120
that's something that's fell away

788
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,520
considerably but i suppose we're waiting

789
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:25,760
on that next tic-tac gimbal video or

790
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:28,640
something of that or update on any of

791
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,600
the potential uh

792
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:33,120
what was the 90 day rolling update of

793
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,360
the 180 day updates any of those

794
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:37,120
potentially or the bills to go through

795
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,960
for us to start getting that momentum

796
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,919
again

797
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:41,840
yeah that's right

798
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,240
will we play senator martin heinrich's

799
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:46,320
clip now um as you can see this was from

800
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:49,679
tmz very reputable station of course so

801
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:51,360
we'll play that what do you think about

802
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,919
all this ufo stuff going on right now

803
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:55,760
uh i think we need to get to the bottom

804
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:57,600
of it it's pretty intriguing i don't

805
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:00,000
know what it is but anytime

806
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:02,799
you have uh legitimate

807
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:06,240
uh pilots describing something that

808
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,520
doesn't seem to conform to uh

809
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:11,600
uh the

810
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,720
laws of physics that govern aviation

811
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,440
and is in

812
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:18,960
u.s airspace

813
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:20,399
i think it's something we need to get to

814
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,000
the bottom right but you know like they

815
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,080
always say the conspiracies like roswell

816
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:26,000
there's a lot of alien bodies in there

817
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:27,120
anything like that

818
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,480
can you tell me the truth you're in

819
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,159
you're on intel committee is there

820
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,320
anything in there all i can say is i've

821
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:34,399
never seen the bodies in roswell bigger

822
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:36,559
thing to worry about if it's a foreign

823
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:41,120
government or if it's aliens oh

824
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:42,720
much bigger thing you think the aliens

825
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:43,919
would be worse

826
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:45,919
uh

827
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,480
we'll stop that one there anyway dan

828
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:50,000
i mean the questions aren't the best

829
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:51,840
here are they it's very you know whoa

830
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,919
bro what do you think about roswell and

831
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,440
apologies for anyone for my american

832
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:57,120
accent

833
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,480
it's again it's not the tone we're

834
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,559
looking for is it but it's the person

835
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:03,120
who's answering and the status they have

836
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,600
and you know what it's again

837
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:07,520
i think this plays into and people can

838
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,039
forget this why the focus is on military

839
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:14,000
sightings and what people have seen

840
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,399
regarding you know the military and what

841
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,480
fravar and dietrich and graves and all

842
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,440
those names we now know very well saw in

843
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:23,919
their various different experiences

844
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,799
yeah

845
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:26,399
you know we we've had

846
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:27,200
now

847
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:30,480
that they don't conform to the laws of

848
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,880
physics uh you know we we know he's been

849
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,399
brief we know he's trying to get more

850
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:36,799
information uh he he teases about

851
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:38,640
roswell so he's clearly

852
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:42,240
aware of that event in american history

853
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:43,679
um and says that he's never seen the

854
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,840
bodies but it's interesting because

855
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,760
there's a very different tone discussing

856
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:49,679
that

857
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,480
you know

858
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:52,559
historical event than there is

859
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:55,279
discussing pilots are endangered now off

860
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:56,880
the coast of america and we need to do

861
00:31:01,990 --> 00:30:58,880
something about it he he flits between

862
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,000
uh you know joking with roswell and very

863
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:04,080
po-faced uh with the with the modern

864
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:05,200
stuff

865
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:06,559
i mean the follow-up to that should have

866
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:08,000
been you've not seen the bodies but have

867
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:10,799
you seen the craft but yeah for me it's

868
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:12,320
one of those questions it's a waste of

869
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:14,720
time question sure because what are you

870
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:16,960
going to get from that even if he has

871
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:19,840
which he probably hasn't seen the bodies

872
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,399
or seen the craft or a craft he's not

873
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:24,000
going to tell you he's not going to give

874
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:25,519
you an answer that you're going to deem

875
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:26,960
acceptable and that's always something

876
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:27,679
that

877
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,679
you try when we do our interviews and we

878
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:33,519
speak to anyone we speak to no matter

879
00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:35,519
who they are you want to give the best

880
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,279
interview possible so the person or

881
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:39,200
person's listening or watching

882
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,200
get as much as they can from it you

883
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:43,120
can't ask everything and you can't cover

884
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,039
everything but you try and cover

885
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:47,200
sort of what you can

886
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:49,039
and there's just sometimes questions

887
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,640
that especially with people when it

888
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,480
comes to louis ondo

889
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,880
there's just no point in asking is there

890
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:56,399
because you're not going to get an

891
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:58,880
answer that is going to give you any

892
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,640
information that's relevant

893
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:02,880
and it just can waste sometimes two

894
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:04,880
three four minutes of time

895
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:07,039
that's relatively precious anyway and

896
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:08,399
especially when you're following someone

897
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,159
down the street like that what's the

898
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:11,760
point in asking a politician a question

899
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:12,880
where you literally have a couple of

900
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,760
minutes

901
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:15,279
what can you get from them there were

902
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:16,399
certainly better things that could have

903
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:17,600
been asked her

904
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:19,039
yeah they're just trying to get a

905
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,640
headline there rather than have a

906
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:22,960
genuine conversation like i said very

907
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:24,799
very different tone to those first two

908
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:28,399
clips with warner and rubio um but

909
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:29,279
still

910
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:33,840
talking about it with such a serious

911
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:36,240
tone despite what the tmz reporter is

912
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:37,279
doing

913
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:40,880
now that first uh clip we played of uh

914
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:42,480
former president obama

915
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:46,799
was on november 30th 2020 let's skip to

916
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:49,679
may 2021 so now we're a couple of weeks

917
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:52,240
off of the uap task force report and i

918
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:54,159
think than what you've just said we see

919
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:57,600
here we see a slight tone shift

920
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:00,080
and actually bringing forward

921
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:03,039
using on the front foot the conversation

922
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,679
of ufos and uaps in a way that i don't

923
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,440
think the host themselves necessarily

924
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,799
expecting so let's bring in

925
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,960
obama

926
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:14,799
barack are you there yes he is he's in

927
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,600
the studio with us live

928
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:19,279
and we're going to play his comment

929
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,039
series is that

930
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:22,880
there are

931
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,000
uh there's footage and records of

932
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,640
objects in the skies that we

933
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,720
don't know exactly what they are we

934
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:32,240
can't explain

935
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:33,360
uh

936
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,120
how they moved

937
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,600
their trajectory uh

938
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,760
they did not have

939
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:41,279
um

940
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:45,600
an easily explainable pattern

941
00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:47,200
and so

942
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,519
you know i think that we're

943
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:51,360
people still take seriously trying to

944
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,720
investigate and figure out what that is

945
00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:56,480
president obama

946
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:58,320
oh we jumped forward one there so what

947
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,640
are your thoughts then on uh obama that

948
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:02,559
time and what he's saying

949
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,600
he's he's a lot more relaxed i think now

950
00:34:09,669 --> 00:34:07,760
that he can open up a little bit it was

951
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:09,679
almost like last time he was he was

952
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,359
biting his tongue and trying not to say

953
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:13,839
the wrong thing and now people are a bit

954
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:16,560
more accustomed to it so he's basically

955
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:17,919
you know just saying

956
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:19,440
these are real

957
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,119
these are just real there's no other way

958
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:23,119
around it

959
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,159
do you think by this point he has had

960
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,560
some sort of inclination as to what was

961
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,960
going to be in the task force report and

962
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,879
the language that would be used and at

963
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:34,960
that point he's comfortable and do you

964
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,399
know what this is what i can say in a

965
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,879
public conversation and again it's

966
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:40,879
almost that encouragement of let's have

967
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:42,800
that conversation yet let's use the

968
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,520
language let's use the tone and can i

969
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:47,679
crack on from there but that be fair

970
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:50,240
yeah i would say so um cordon tries to

971
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:52,560
joke and you know obama resists it to

972
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,079
take a moment to give

973
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:56,399
anyone who's watching a a mini uap

974
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:57,760
briefing

975
00:35:02,230 --> 00:34:59,760
yeah i mean i can't believe top

976
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,240
journalistic host interviewer james

977
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:04,640
corden uh was was skilled by

978
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:07,200
former president barack obama but there

979
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:08,800
you go do you know what i i just for the

980
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:10,960
record um i i liked james calderon and

981
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:14,320
gavin and stacy and then it stopped

982
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:18,000
well did not oh did you not no

983
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:19,520
i appreciate that people should check

984
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:20,960
out gavin and stacy if they've not seen

985
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,280
it it's a pretty good show did you

986
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,200
actually like any of it then

987
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,119
gavin and stacy i've i've seen one

988
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,440
christmas special and i thought the

989
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,680
accents were very much not reflective of

990
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:33,359
the people of the town of barrie where i

991
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,960
live so

992
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,320
i think you're just being precious i

993
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,640
think they're spot on um you're saying

994
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,720
you're from london anyway but oh yeah

995
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:42,400
people should check out it's quite funny

996
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:43,520
um

997
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,440
if not a reflection of where dan's

998
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,079
people are from uh so let's go from

999
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:50,400
former president obama to current

1000
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,359
president joe biden um

1001
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,800
not always the most comfortable

1002
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,400
answering questions

1003
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:58,320
and almost takes his head off at the end

1004
00:36:03,190 --> 00:35:59,920
of this one as well walking away from

1005
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:03,200
the podium but it's uh it's a response

1006
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,480
it's a pretty short clip as well so

1007
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:06,320
let's hear what uh president biden had

1008
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:07,280
to say

1009
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:10,320
president obama says

1010
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:13,599
that there is footage and uh records of

1011
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:16,880
objects in the skies these unidentified

1012
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,520
aerial phenomenon and he says we don't

1013
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:22,480
know exactly what they are what do you

1014
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:25,119
think that it is i would ask him again

1015
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,470
come on let's go

1016
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,710
that was not as smooth as he thought it

1017
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:38,640
was going to go i i think that could

1018
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:41,599
have been

1019
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,240
um and he just got flustered you can

1020
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,000
almost see that that smile up front when

1021
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:48,079
the journalist starts asking the

1022
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,240
question you can almost just see this oh

1023
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:52,720
no look on his face

1024
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:54,560
it's like raising your fist for the mic

1025
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:56,880
drop but on the way up the mic slips out

1026
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,880
the side of your hand and you go oh oh

1027
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:00,400
no so

1028
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:02,400
it was but you know what is that

1029
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:03,920
anything to read into that it would be

1030
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:06,320
very easy to sit here and go whoa he's

1031
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,480
saying obama's lying and he doesn't know

1032
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,560
about you know this that and the next

1033
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,960
thing and you know should be

1034
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,480
or is it just a case of it he's just

1035
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:15,920
brushing off the question because he

1036
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,760
doesn't really have an interest in it

1037
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,520
it's probably a really good example of

1038
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,720
the kind of stuff that's been going on

1039
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,240
in government with this issue for a long

1040
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,880
time hey here's this important issue uh

1041
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,320
go talk to this guy about it i've got

1042
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:28,400
other stuff to worry about and the ball

1043
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:29,839
gets passed around and no one really

1044
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:32,640
solves anything i think this is biden's

1045
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:35,280
way of just buying more time and now

1046
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:36,880
that's it

1047
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:39,599
yeah that's fair let's move on now so we

1048
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,400
are moving up to june 5th 2021 i should

1049
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:44,160
also note that that statement was made

1050
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,520
on my birthday and uh

1051
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,200
it was the i want to say two year

1052
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:51,520
anniversary of chris sherwood making a

1053
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:53,359
birthday statement for me saying that uh

1054
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:56,800
atip did in fact investigate ufos

1055
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,480
nice and that was your stan's way of

1056
00:38:01,510 --> 00:38:00,400
getting and when his birthday has said

1057
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:01,520
yeah

1058
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,520
you're nothing

1059
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,040
just give the channel a subscribe that's

1060
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:07,040
that's all dan needs and maybe maybe

1061
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:08,640
sign up for a youtube membership as well

1062
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,960
dad would appreciate that um what we've

1063
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:12,640
got here folks is of course a piece of

1064
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,320
famous footage but this is playing over

1065
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:16,400
a package on the channel we're about to

1066
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:19,520
show and again this is fro with martin

1067
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:22,240
heinrich again so pretty good clip here

1068
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:23,920
martin heinrich says it's time to start

1069
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:26,720
listening to some of our us navy pilots

1070
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,839
taking

1071
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,920
the data that we have seen the video

1072
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:31,680
that we've seen and their testimony

1073
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,079
seriously is

1074
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,640
is the the right thing to do the

1075
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,400
pentagon's report on a number of

1076
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,480
unexplainable sightings will be released

1077
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,280
in weeks senator heinrich hasn't seen it

1078
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,599
and isn't expecting a lot of answers i

1079
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,440
think we just don't know what we're

1080
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:50,079
seeing abc news is reporting some of the

1081
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,400
movements could not be pulled off by a

1082
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,200
human pilot or a man-made aircraft

1083
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,520
heinrich backs up that theory certainly

1084
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:58,960
if you were

1085
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:01,119
a human being inside something that

1086
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:02,800
moved like some of these objects you

1087
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:04,000
would not

1088
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:08,079
you wouldn't

1089
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,640
you probably couldn't survive the the

1090
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:12,640
kind of movements that we've seen these

1091
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,960
encounters are puzzling heinrich wants

1092
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:16,800
to change the conversation we're having

1093
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,119
about them and i think what's important

1094
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:20,960
is for us as a government if we're going

1095
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,720
to take these things seriously is to

1096
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,240
stop

1097
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:26,320
trying to sweep it under the rug and

1098
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:28,240
really do the science of figuring out

1099
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:29,520
you know what are these things that the

1100
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,040
pilots are seeing and

1101
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:33,119
that are showing up on radar et cetera

1102
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,560
you can really hear it in their voices

1103
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,480
too right when they're talking like they

1104
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:38,640
have no idea what they're looking at and

1105
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:40,000
you know there's there was a culture for

1106
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:41,599
a long time of you know just don't

1107
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:44,240
discuss it he says that stops soon with

1108
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,720
this report though he has a feeling when

1109
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,720
he does read it it'll just be the

1110
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,440
beginning of trying to really find out

1111
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:53,920
what's in these videos

1112
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:56,079
and it certainly was wasn't it dan now

1113
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,079
what i find really interesting from this

1114
00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:00,720
one and i i think is really relevant as

1115
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:01,520
well

1116
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,480
as the comment or the language around

1117
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,960
the movements of these objects because

1118
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,319
again if you're looking at one of these

1119
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:10,640
videos as a debunker or someone who is

1120
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:13,119
pretty skeptical and as you should be

1121
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,200
you're looking and going are we seeing

1122
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:17,359
anything necessarily spectacular in

1123
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,280
terms of movement it's just objects

1124
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:21,760
cruising along at various speeds i think

1125
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,160
what he's talking about is this is

1126
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:26,400
someone who has seen the the rest of

1127
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,599
these videos

1128
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,920
for example the gimbal video we're

1129
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,760
pretty certain that the next piece of

1130
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:33,599
that as it slows down as it tilts a

1131
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,480
little

1132
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,079
because it does tilt

1133
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,800
and then shoots off at ridiculous speed

1134
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:40,240
that's the sort of stuff that if you put

1135
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,839
that out to the public

1136
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,680
that's a bit of a game changer in terms

1137
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:45,680
of the conversation and that's why we

1138
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:48,400
don't see it because it's it's enough to

1139
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:49,119
be

1140
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,839
conversation but i think that's what

1141
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:56,000
he's getting at is that fair i say

1142
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,920
yeah i think so um there's something to

1143
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:59,760
be said here for walking people down

1144
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,000
this path slowly you know this issue

1145
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:04,880
belongs to everyone on this planet and

1146
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,920
it's kind of a uh no man left behind

1147
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:09,920
type thing oh no no human left behind

1148
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,400
type thing i'll say it's slow and steady

1149
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,560
it's explaining things in ways that

1150
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:16,400
people can understand

1151
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,680
and we're very much not talking about

1152
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,440
you know when we get to bill nelson we

1153
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,839
will see the tone shift again majorly

1154
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:25,599
right now we're talking nuts and bolts

1155
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:28,079
we're talking risk we're talking wanting

1156
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:30,160
to keep americans safe

1157
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,359
and you know what's really interesting

1158
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,880
to me as well is that i think they're

1159
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,560
building up a portfolio

1160
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:36,560
not necessarily for people like us with

1161
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:39,119
an interest in a subject but for

1162
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:41,119
journalists and for the general public

1163
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,200
and other media who come into the

1164
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,599
subject say in a couple of weeks time

1165
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,000
and or even let's say off the back of

1166
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,839
this bill nelson comment

1167
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,040
now

1168
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:52,960
someone saying that might be like wow so

1169
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:55,119
this is finally being taken seriously

1170
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:56,960
and you could approach someone like one

1171
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,440
of us or you know someone on ufo twitter

1172
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,040
or instagram or

1173
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:03,119
just one of these congressmen are women

1174
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:04,319
and they could say well actually we've

1175
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:05,760
been talking about this now for some

1176
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,560
time

1177
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:08,160
and if they go on to youtube and look at

1178
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:09,520
the playlist we have just made up for

1179
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:10,720
this show

1180
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,920
they can actually look back and a

1181
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:13,440
journalist could look and go wow

1182
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,240
actually i've got 15 or 20 comments here

1183
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,240
from high linking high ranking

1184
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,480
politicians and and speakers and

1185
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:22,240
intellectuals

1186
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:24,160
all about this subject and i've missed

1187
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:26,079
it and it lets them catch up very

1188
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,839
quickly same with members of the public

1189
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,280
who might just be exploring this for the

1190
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,359
first time we've we talked a few weeks

1191
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:33,680
ago about the demi lovato series or the

1192
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,920
jj abrams series someone watching that

1193
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,440
and going i'm going to do a little bit

1194
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:39,440
of digging into this myself

1195
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:41,760
all of a sudden finds news clip after

1196
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,839
news clip after news clip on youtube and

1197
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,520
various social medias

1198
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,520
with a lot of very recent discussion on

1199
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,200
the subject and it lets them catch up

1200
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:51,359
very quickly and i suppose it takes away

1201
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:53,680
a lot of that shock of

1202
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:54,880
what have i been missing it's just

1203
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:57,040
happening now no no the conversation's

1204
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:58,400
actually been happening for quite a

1205
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,520
while

1206
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:01,520
yeah absolutely and and that kind of

1207
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:03,280
reflects what's happening behind closed

1208
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,800
doors you know we may not be privy to

1209
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,480
those conversations but we know people

1210
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,079
are being brief we know more and more

1211
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,319
people are asking to be briefed

1212
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,319
this isn't going away that the people

1213
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,079
who think this is just

1214
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,480
you know three or four individuals

1215
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,160
promoting a

1216
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,000
disinformation narrative or something

1217
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:21,839
like that

1218
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,520
they they must think that all of these

1219
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:25,200
people are being paid millions to just

1220
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:27,040
say all these things on national tv you

1221
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:29,119
know that it's it's a little out there

1222
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,319
to me

1223
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,160
well we've got tim burchett now making a

1224
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:34,560
statement so let's get to tim butcher

1225
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:36,560
because again he as it says people might

1226
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:39,040
be able to read at the top ufos aren't

1227
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:41,119
russians so again some pretty strong

1228
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,079
language

1229
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,240
you know right now um with president

1230
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:46,160
biden when he's going to speak to um

1231
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:48,319
putin that he's talking about he's going

1232
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:50,240
to ask him about the ufo thing and stuff

1233
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,760
like that

1234
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:52,960
i think that's ridiculous if the

1235
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:55,440
russians had ufo technology i mean they

1236
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,280
would own us right now they used to say

1237
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,880
that they've heard people talk about how

1238
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,400
the nazis had it in the second real

1239
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,000
world if they did they would have won

1240
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,319
that's ridiculous it has to be something

1241
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:06,400
that's it's out of our galaxy it just

1242
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,480
has to be if an impact is real because

1243
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:12,319
you have always been a straight shooter

1244
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:15,040
it's been like i know when um it's been

1245
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,960
bipartisan but the one thing i've

1246
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,640
noticed is

1247
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,640
it doesn't matter which president is

1248
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,800
nobody ever talks about the uh they

1249
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,160
always say they're going to do something

1250
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:26,240
about it then they get in office and and

1251
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:27,760
honestly i thought trump was going to do

1252
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,800
something he's going to release the

1253
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,480
files but you know they release these

1254
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:32,880
files are redacted it's just a big blob

1255
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:34,640
white out

1256
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:36,800
clearly something's going on we we talk

1257
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:37,920
about we're going to release it and then

1258
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,920
we never do or we release something

1259
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,839
that's so redacted that it's just

1260
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:43,599
ridiculous the air force

1261
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:46,240
had a release of uh on roswell which was

1262
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,119
the big the big deal i think from 48 and

1263
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,359
a big cover up there and the guy that

1264
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:53,119
did it was a smart aleck and he kind of

1265
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,800
smirked the whole time and nobody took

1266
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,400
it serious they ought to take it serious

1267
00:45:08,230 --> 00:44:57,680
american public wants to know and

1268
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:12,150
you're a meter

1269
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,589
god that's

1270
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:15,440
that's

1271
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:17,839
done take a note 45 minutes sudden to

1272
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:20,560
edit that one out please no

1273
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:22,880
i'll buy you a coffee um

1274
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,880
sorry my bad that's that'll be a t-shirt

1275
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,640
one day folks you know people roll their

1276
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,720
eyes at the merchandise stuff but i'm on

1277
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:30,880
mute get your i'm on mute t-shirts for

1278
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:34,400
50 bucks um so yeah so that language for

1279
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,079
me was again really strong that you've

1280
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,160
got another politician like like chris

1281
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,480
mellon has said on many occasions

1282
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:42,240
these are not ours

1283
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:44,240
they're almost definitely not russian

1284
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:45,599
and they're almost definitely not

1285
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,400
chinese

1286
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,880
these are something else we've had that

1287
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,560
language am i hearing it now from from

1288
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:52,720
other politicians

1289
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,640
what more do you think needs to be said

1290
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:56,160
for the conversation to move forward

1291
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,880
though from that then

1292
00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,880
well we need

1293
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:02,560
we

1294
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:07,359
the hard data or for people interested

1295
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,440
public positions uh where they can talk

1296
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:10,800
and interface with the public about what

1297
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:11,920
they're seeing

1298
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,800
um

1299
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,640
we we'd like for those guys

1300
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:16,240
those people to get access to all the

1301
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,599
all the data so they can study it

1302
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:19,359
properly and and i guess that's what

1303
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:20,240
we're

1304
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:24,960
noticed that tim tim burchett actually

1305
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:27,200
came onto the big phone home uh to speak

1306
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:29,839
with luis jimenez and mike mataloon yeah

1307
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:33,760
um and yeah it was fantastic he's a very

1308
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:36,640
very supportive ally of the

1309
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,760
of uap transparency and it's great to

1310
00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:40,880
see him

1311
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:42,319
profess such frustration with the

1312
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,000
secrecy

1313
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,480
absolutely now dan the very reason we

1314
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,240
are doing this show is because of the

1315
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,720
clip we're about to play now bill nelson

1316
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,119
is our former senator and has had

1317
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,359
announced when um actually not too long

1318
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:57,920
ago that he had previously been briefed

1319
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:00,000
on some of these these uap briefings

1320
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,760
that have gone on and it's something

1321
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,760
that he actively once kept in the loop

1322
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,079
with and it seems to be a real shift in

1323
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:08,880
tone and policy from nasa and it seems a

1324
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,640
really good thing that someone like bill

1325
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:13,599
nelson is now heading up nasa in terms

1326
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:14,400
of

1327
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,960
they are actively interested in ufos uap

1328
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,640
anomalous phenomena

1329
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:22,319
things that may be coming here already

1330
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,400
from other planets not that we have to

1331
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,119
go somewhere to find it so that's a

1332
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:29,280
pretty interesting one for me

1333
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,800
what i'll ask you dan though first off

1334
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:32,960
is i've had some people say that they're

1335
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:35,839
only doing this now nasa because they

1336
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:38,000
need and want extra funding because

1337
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:39,760
they're really struggling in that in

1338
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:41,839
that term is that a fair comment there

1339
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:44,079
are easier ways to get funding much

1340
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:46,160
easier ways um you know they're

1341
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:47,920
interfacing with spacex and various

1342
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,720
other

1343
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,640
private industry members

1344
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,480
there's plenty of money going on there

1345
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,040
it i mean it would be great to see nasa

1346
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:57,440
tackle this fully but i think when

1347
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:58,240
when

1348
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,079
the department or the organization is

1349
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,520
formed that's going to take this issue

1350
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:03,359
forward i don't think nasa is going to

1351
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:04,880
have a hand in it they'll just be able

1352
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:07,680
to see the assessments from that place

1353
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,920
absolutely let's play the clip now uh

1354
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:11,839
this is bill nelson as you can see at

1355
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:14,480
the or on a virtual interview with the

1356
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,800
university of virginia center for

1357
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:18,160
politics

1358
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:19,760
what what do you think we're doing on

1359
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:22,400
mars what do you think uh we're looking

1360
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:23,839
for life

1361
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:27,520
this is a part of nasa's mission

1362
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:30,240
that's what this telescope

1363
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:33,359
uh is going to be looking for

1364
00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:36,559
are there other planets elsewhere that

1365
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,240
there is life

1366
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:40,480
now i know what you've seen is what

1367
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:44,000
those navy pilots saw in 2004 and there

1368
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:47,599
have been some 300 sightings since then

1369
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:50,319
and i've talked to those pilots

1370
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:51,920
and they know they saw something and

1371
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:54,800
their radars locked onto it

1372
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,520
and and then all of a sudden it was here

1373
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:58,960
on the surface

1374
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,040
and then it's there

1375
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:03,040
uh and they don't know what it is and we

1376
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:04,960
don't know what it is

1377
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:07,200
we hope it's not an adversary here on

1378
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:10,480
earth that has that kind of technology

1379
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:13,520
uh but it's something

1380
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:16,240
and uh and so this is a mission that

1381
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:19,920
we're constantly looking what who is out

1382
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:24,400
there who are we how did we get here

1383
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:28,079
how did we become as we are

1384
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:31,760
how did we develop how did we civilize

1385
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:35,760
and are those same conditions out there

1386
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:38,079
in a universe

1387
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,760
that has

1388
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,280
billions

1389
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:43,760
of other sons

1390
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:44,559
in

1391
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:48,800
billions of other galaxies

1392
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:55,829
you anticipated one of the questions

1393
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:57,119
that i have here because it was

1394
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,119
suggested to me by

1395
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:01,680
many different people they did want your

1396
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,720
comment

1397
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:04,960
on what you think

1398
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,359
the fighter pilot saw i think most

1399
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:09,599
people saw that 60 minutes piece and

1400
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,160
there were a lot of newspaper pieces

1401
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,880
about whether or not it was russia or

1402
00:50:19,230 --> 00:50:16,160
china or

1403
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:19,240
perhaps more likely uh some

1404
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:22,880
extraterrestrial intelligent beings

1405
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,520
uh what is your theory what you've heard

1406
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:27,839
a lot of options which one do you think

1407
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:31,040
is the most credible if you can choose

1408
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,760
larry i don't know the answer to that

1409
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:36,160
but i do know this

1410
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:37,200
that

1411
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,319
is so big and now there are even

1412
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:44,319
theories there there might be other

1413
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:48,230
and

1414
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:51,200
if that's the case

1415
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:56,800
who am i to say that planet earth

1416
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,640
is the only location of a life form that

1417
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:02,160
is

1418
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,839
civilized

1419
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:05,680
and organized

1420
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,839
like

1421
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:09,440
ours i'll tell you what that makes me

1422
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:15,109
i better be a better steward

1423
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:18,000
of what we have

1424
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,240
because we're messing it up

1425
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:24,000
we're messing it up just the way we're

1426
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:26,960
treating each other

1427
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:30,640
uh and so i know what my mission is

1428
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,119
to be a better steward of this planet

1429
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:35,599
and be a better citizen

1430
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:40,230
but

1431
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,240
are there other planet earths out there

1432
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,079
i certainly think so because the

1433
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,240
universe is so big

1434
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:50,480
what what do you think

1435
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,400
it's quite the statement dan isn't it

1436
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,880
and it is it's used and

1437
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,800
it says more and more and more that i

1438
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:59,040
don't think you expect him to say and i

1439
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:01,040
genuinely it's all opinion and i have to

1440
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:02,640
say that because there were people

1441
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:05,040
online saying he says a whole lot of

1442
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:06,800
nothing but you're looking at the guy

1443
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,960
who's in charge of nasa talking about

1444
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:10,559
not only other planets but other

1445
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:12,000
universities

1446
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,000
and he brings this stuff up himself he's

1447
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,920
not been prompted to do it like the

1448
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:17,920
interviewer says you've actually you've

1449
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:19,760
actually predicted one of my questions

1450
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,319
and started answering it already so he's

1451
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:24,559
actively having the conversation for you

1452
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:26,000
what stood out to you in this one down

1453
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:27,920
in the kind of final minutes we've got

1454
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:28,640
so

1455
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,200
i mean multiple universes uh the fact

1456
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,880
that he spoke about human origin

1457
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,119
questions and that happened within i'd

1458
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:38,000
say 24 48 hours of louisando addressing

1459
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:40,160
the same stuff on an interview on

1460
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:41,359
theories of everything with kurt

1461
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:44,079
jormungal uh real interesting for me

1462
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:46,800
that it came up at the same time uh bill

1463
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:48,880
nelson was and i hope i get this name

1464
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,240
right he was on the armed services

1465
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:52,400
committee so he'd been briefed a long

1466
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:54,800
time ago on this whole issue so he's

1467
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,160
extremely comfortable with it um and and

1468
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:00,400
has been considering it for a long time

1469
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,359
we we've just found a planet outside of

1470
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,520
the milky way as well the first one or

1471
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:07,119
all the other ones we were within the

1472
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:09,520
milky way so again you know that came a

1473
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:10,880
few days after that and i'm not saying

1474
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:13,040
that it was all planned but it's just

1475
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:15,520
it's rolling out in a real smooth way

1476
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:17,119
right

1477
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:19,760
i think and that let me put my

1478
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,200
let me put on my

1479
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,119
let's go a bit out there hat

1480
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:25,280
if you are in his position and you have

1481
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:27,920
any inclination that there may be other

1482
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:30,880
entities and other planets

1483
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:33,440
do you have a better idea of where nasa

1484
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:36,400
should be aiming probes and

1485
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:38,800
shuttles and crafts and future missions

1486
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:40,480
because i think with nasa you always get

1487
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:42,160
the idea that they're hopping around the

1488
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,680
planets in our solar system and

1489
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:48,400
i suppose you would think people in the

1490
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:49,280
know

1491
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,240
what there's

1492
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:54,400
let's just say i'm loyalizondo and i

1493
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:55,200
know

1494
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:56,559
almost everything but she probably

1495
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,760
doesn't know as much as we're going to

1496
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,760
see here but let's just put these hats

1497
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,960
on for a minute

1498
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:02,640
and i say to you dan you're going to

1499
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,880
head up nasa but do you know what let's

1500
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:07,280
let's kind of stop looking at jupiter

1501
00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:10,559
uranus mars neptune saturn

1502
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,599
there's nothing there they're just

1503
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:13,520
planets however

1504
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:16,640
let's start looking over that way or

1505
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:18,800
have we considered looking here do you

1506
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,760
think there's a potential in that

1507
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:23,280
well this is what we're going to be

1508
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,640
doing uh

1509
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:26,160
in the next few months i say we i'm not

1510
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:27,440
doing anything i'm just going to be

1511
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:29,200
excited when i see the photos uh the

1512
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:30,160
james webb

1513
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:31,760
you don't have time yeah you don't have

1514
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:34,160
to do anything

1515
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:35,760
the james webb telescope is going up and

1516
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:37,760
that's going to look a lot a lot of

1517
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:39,520
exoplanets and be able to see if there

1518
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:41,599
are signatures of life on them um you

1519
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,359
know we're going to be understanding

1520
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:45,359
that data for a long time and just like

1521
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,960
we saw with the venus results that we

1522
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:48,720
had not too long ago

1523
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,119
that data had existed in other data

1524
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:53,280
piles for a long time and it wasn't

1525
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:55,040
until we got the new data that we

1526
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:57,520
realized it was there in the old data so

1527
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:58,400
i think

1528
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,280
we're on the cusp of starting to

1529
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,359
see that there's there's a lot more

1530
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,839
potential for life out there and it's

1531
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:07,920
kind of shifting the mindset i think of

1532
00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:10,559
the the whole human race to go from you

1533
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:11,839
know we're just here and we're just

1534
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,359
alone and it's just us to wow we we

1535
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,520
really aren't alone and

1536
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:19,119
you know we're all just arguing over

1537
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:22,000
whether they visited us or not now

1538
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:25,119
what part does nasa still have to play

1539
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:26,160
if

1540
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:28,000
it seems almost for a fact that these

1541
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:29,920
things are coming here

1542
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,160
from somewhere else because it almost

1543
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:34,319
seems a little bit defunct doesn't it to

1544
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:35,040
be

1545
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:38,160
various

1546
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,680
you know life signatures and the

1547
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,440
atmospheres of other planets far far

1548
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:43,760
away that right now we can't necessarily

1549
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,160
get to with our known technology when it

1550
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:48,000
looks like you know what we have stuff

1551
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:49,760
coming from elsewhere

1552
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:52,000
or potentially already here in some way

1553
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,400
shape or form

1554
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,160
yeah i mean i mean you're not wrong that

1555
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,319
that mission would kind of change for

1556
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,319
nasa you know it could potentially

1557
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:02,799
become a public-facing

1558
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:04,480
uh

1559
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:06,880
organization to talk about the phenomena

1560
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:08,079
you know it

1561
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:09,760
in a hundred years nasa could be looked

1562
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:12,160
at as just an organization that blazes

1563
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:14,000
the frontier of whatever

1564
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:15,599
you know the next frontier is whether

1565
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:17,440
it's space or dimensions or whatever

1566
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:20,799
that is um i just note that

1567
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:23,599
uh jen pasaki avila webb

1568
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:26,400
um bill nelson um and another gentleman

1569
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,760
i can't remember the name of david

1570
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,280
something i think but they're all doing

1571
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:31,920
an event on the 10th of november it is a

1572
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:34,160
free event at the washington national

1573
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,760
cathedral and they'll be talking about

1574
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:37,839
our future in space and that's going to

1575
00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:40,000
be extremely exciting to hear those uh

1576
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:41,839
those four people up there

1577
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,160
talking seriously about this subject and

1578
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:45,520
what's to come

1579
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:47,440
absolutely dan we're pretty much out of

1580
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:49,119
time do you want to finish off by just

1581
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:50,640
letting people know what you're up to

1582
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:52,319
right now or this week or anything

1583
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:53,760
you've got on your

1584
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,559
we are working on any projects yeah so

1585
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:58,240
at the moment i'm playing with some some

1586
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,280
resin stuff um kind of

1587
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:03,440
creating i mean it's a big mess i'll

1588
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:04,720
show people on

1589
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:07,119
on twitter when these things already um

1590
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:09,200
but there's a there's a big big weekend

1591
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:11,760
ahead of us that that i'll i'll you know

1592
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:13,839
zip about but i'm sure we'll have more

1593
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:16,079
to share on that in the future

1594
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:17,760
yes well actually we can just say that

1595
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:19,599
we're meeting face to face for the first

1596
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,319
time and yes we are almost almost 18

1597
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:24,240
months i'm gonna run you in slow motion

1598
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,520
i hope you know that i hope you're a

1599
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:26,960
hugger

1600
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,440
covered not allowed

1601
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:31,280
so yeah we're meeting for the first time

1602
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:32,640
with some of our other colleagues as

1603
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:34,880
well which i'm looking forward to folks

1604
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:36,960
um right now on the podcast you can

1605
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:38,960
listen to our our interview with george

1606
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,680
knapp and dr colin kelleher on their but

1607
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:43,119
their new book skin walkers at the

1608
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:44,240
pentagon it was a really good

1609
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,240
conversation it's available on the

1610
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:48,640
youtube channel but please consider if

1611
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:50,160
you can supporting on the youtube

1612
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:52,079
channel because that money helps us get

1613
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:54,000
dan a new macbook at some point that

1614
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:55,599
he's looking to get to help us make

1615
00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:57,760
these videos a whole lot quicker than it

1616
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:59,599
takes is to make them right now but it's

1617
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:00,799
the price of a coffee and you can

1618
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:02,799
subscribe to the youtube channel and you

1619
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,319
get some cool emojis and stuff like that

1620
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:06,000
as part of that as well so check out the

1621
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:07,359
george knapp and colin kelleher

1622
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:09,680
interview and a whole load of others on

1623
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:12,000
there as well i won't announce yet

1624
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,119
because i'm still waiting on a few

1625
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:15,200
confirmations the podcast coming up for

1626
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,280
next month but we've got some good stuff

1627
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:19,440
in the pipeline as well and i look

1628
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,559
forward to kind of getting those out

1629
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:22,559
there so dan thank you very much for

1630
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,760
your time

1631
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,440
thank you very much and i'll i'll see

1632
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:27,599
you soon yes and thank you to everyone

1633
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:29,680
out there in kg r a land as well for

1634
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,079
hosting us as well see you soon that is

1635
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:34,079
all for this week's show thank you very

1636
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,079
much for listening please remember to

1637
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:38,000
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1638
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,200
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00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:42,960
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00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,119
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